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Dr Ethan Kross13 March 2025

How To Stop Feeling Negative Emotions All The Time - Dr Ethan Kross - #914

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster

Can you really control your emotions? Arising vs engaging

About 40% of adolescents surveyed said emotions can't be controlled, a finding Kross took as an existential threat to his own lab's premise. His resolution: some facets are genuinely outside our control, the automatic reactions and dark intrusive thoughts that spontaneously pop up. But how you engage with those thoughts and feelings once activated is squarely within your control, and that is 'the playground of emotion regulation.'

  • Some reactions are automatic and uncontrollable (noxious smells, intrusive dark thoughts)
  • Intrusive dark thoughts are close to a universal human experience
  • What you can control is how you engage a thought or feeling once it's active
  • Both 'I can't control it' and 'I can influence it' are partly true

what we do have control over is how we engage with those thoughts and feelings once they are activated. That's the playground of emotion regulation.

Ethan Kross
#control#intrusive thoughts#self-regulation#myth

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take

Why 'good vibes only' is a trap

Kross is no fan of toxic positivity. Setting maximal positivity as your goal is unattainable and strips away emotions we evolved for a reason. He notes that the performances he gave with zero anxiety are the ones that fell flat, because nothing cued him to prepare. The moments of greatest growth in life usually sit in the blast radius of pain we'd have avoided under a no-bad-vibes philosophy.

  • Maximizing positivity is an unattainable, self-defeating goal
  • Negative emotions exist for a reason and carry functional information
  • Zero-anxiety performances tend to fall flat
  • People pathologically good at reframing everything positive fail to learn from experience

If that's your goal, number one, good luck. You're giving people an unattainable goal.

Ethan Kross
#toxic positivity#growth#authenticity#mindset

Explainer· 6

Explainer

What an emotion actually is (and how it differs from a feeling)

Kross defines emotions as responses to events we deem meaningful that load up like a software program to help us cope. They activate a 'loosely coordinated' set of physiological, cognitive, motor and facial responses. A feeling is the narrower, conscious part of an emotion, the part you're aware of, like the fever and chills of an illness versus everything happening in the body.

  • Emotions are reactions to events we find meaningful, real or imagined
  • They trigger a loosely coordinated set of body, thought, motor and facial responses that usually cohere but sometimes don't
  • We experience emotions about 90% of our waking time
  • A feeling is the conscious, felt component of a broader emotional response

Feelings are the conscious component of an emotional response. They're the part of an emotional response that we're aware of.

Ethan Kross
#emotions#definition#feelings#psychology
Explainer

Why 'toxic' emotions like anger and sadness are actually useful

Kross argues every emotion, even the ones we call bad, gives us an evolutionary edge at the right dose. Anger fires when our sense of right and wrong is violated and there's a chance to fix it, zooming us in and mobilizing action. Sadness follows a loss we can't fix, slowing us down to reflect and signalling to our community to check on us. Emotions are tools, just unwieldy ones.

  • Anger mobilizes us to correct a fixable transgression
  • Sadness slows us down to reframe an unfixable loss and cues others to support us
  • A little anxiety before a performance energizes and focuses you
  • The danger is intensity and duration, not the emotion itself: 'the devil's in the dosage'

these emotions that we have, these negative emotions, they're tools, but they are unwieldy tools

Ethan Kross
#negative emotions#evolution#anger#sadness#anxiety
Explainer

Strategic avoidance: you don't have to choose between approach and avoid

We're taught to always approach problems immediately and that avoidance is bad. Kross corrects this: chronic, blanket avoidance is harmful, but strategic, dosed avoidance is useful. Time away from an angry email gives psychological distance so you return either indifferent or more objective. His decision rule: if approaching leaves you ruminating, or avoiding still lets thoughts intrude, that's a cue to switch tactics. His grandmother, who survived the Nazis, dosed her hardest memories to one remembrance day a year.

  • Chronic avoidance is harmful, but strategic back-and-forth is effective
  • Distance from a triggering email often shrinks it or makes it look different
  • If approaching just fuels rumination, avoidance may be better, and vice versa
  • Combine avoidance with other shifters so you're not simply stewing

we have overgeneralized from that observation that chronic avoidance is bad to assume that all avoidance is bad. And that is not true.

Ethan Kross
#attention shifters#avoidance#rumination#distancing
Explainer

Space shifters: safe places, tidying for control, and removing triggers

Kross was blind to how much physical space moves emotion. We form attachments to restorative 'safe house' places, like his arboretum or tea house, that make problems feel manageable. You can also design immediate spaces: add photos of loved ones (a microglance speeds recovery) and plants for nature's restorative effect. When overwhelmed, tidying creates 'compensatory control', and it's easier to remove a trigger than resist it, which is why he throws out leftover pizza after a party.

  • Restorative 'safe' places make adversity feel more manageable
  • A glance at a photo of a loved one speeds recovery from distress
  • Cleaning and organizing restore a sense of control when emotions feel out of control
  • Removing triggers beats resisting them: 'far easier to avoid temptation than to resist it'

It is far easier to avoid temptation than to resist it.

Ethan Kross
#space shifters#environment design#compensatory control#triggers
Explainer

Relationship shifters: how to give (and get) support that works

Who you talk to can help or harm you. Pure venting strengthens the bond but leaves the problem intact. The best conversations do two things: first let the person express and feel heard, then, at the right moment, work with them to broaden their perspective. Kross also keeps an 'emotional advisory board' of people who understand these tools and can support him on bigger problems, and warns that emotions are unbelievably contagious, spreading within seconds.

  • Venting alone builds connection but doesn't solve the problem
  • Great support follows a trajectory: empathize first, then broaden perspective
  • Ask 'can I share a thought?' to find the opening for the cognitive shift
  • Build an emotional advisory board; watch out for emotional contagion on teams

The problem with venting is if that is all you do... the problem is still there.

Ethan Kross
#relationship shifters#support#venting#contagion
Explainer

Two reframes that turn social comparison from poison to fuel

Kross calls 'comparison is the thief of joy' the worst advice he ever gave, because comparing ourselves to others is how we gauge our standing and is unavoidable. Instead of stopping, reframe. When someone outperforms you, flip envy into motivation: 'they're like me, so I could do that too.' When someone suffers a tragedy, flip fear into gratitude that it hasn't happened to you. And curate your feeds to remove the comparisons that reliably send you astray.

  • Social comparison is inevitable, so manage it rather than trying to stop it
  • Reframe envy at someone's success into motivation and possibility
  • Reframe fear at someone's misfortune into gratitude
  • Curate feeds to cut out the 'secret enemy' triggers

comparison, thief of joy... it's probably the worst advice I've ever given because social comparisons are how we work

Ethan Kross
#social comparison#envy#gratitude#reframing#social media

Story· 2

Story

The Dunedin study: self-control in childhood predicts your whole life

A New Zealand study tracked children from birth in the early 1970s, rigorously profiling their ability to manage emotions. Follow-up showed self-control in childhood predicts most things we care about: school and work performance, relationships, even how slowly your organs age. The finding Kross loves most got less attention: some kids changed over time, and those who got better at self-control fared better later, proving it isn't fixed by genetics.

  • Better childhood self-control predicts better school, work, relationship and health outcomes
  • Poor self-control tracks with cardiovascular disease, inflammation and even some cancers
  • The capacity is not fixed: kids who improved saw their outcomes improve
  • Therapy and CBT act as evidence-backed 'emotion regulation boot camps'

The kids who got better, they fared better on all these different metrics over time.

Ethan Kross
#dunedin study#self-control#longitudinal#outcomes
Story

From skull-drilling to lobotomies: how we've fought our emotions for millennia

Kross's detour through history shows humans have grappled with emotion regulation forever. Trepanation, carving holes in awake people's skulls, is thought to be the first surgery, partly to relieve overwhelming emotion. Bloodletting drained the 'toxic humors' behind negative feelings. The Bible's Adam and Eve is a story of emotion dysregulation. And in 1949 the frontal lobotomy won its inventor the Nobel Prize in Medicine, a reminder of how far, and how recently, our understanding has come.

  • Trepanation, likely the first surgery, was partly used to relieve overwhelming emotion
  • Bloodletting aimed to drain the 'humors' thought to cause negative emotions
  • The frontal lobotomy won a Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1949
  • We've been struggling with emotions as long as we've been human

a Portuguese physician invents an emotion regulation intervention that wins him the Nobel Prize in Medicine... It is the frontal lobotomy.

Ethan Kross
#history#trepanation#lobotomy#emotion regulation

Tool· 2

Tool

Sensory shifters: music, touch, taste and smell as fast levers

Kross calls sensation the lowest-effort tool in the box. Nearly everyone listens to music for how it makes them feel, yet only 10-30% use it deliberately to manage emotion. All senses are tightly linked to emotion: affectionate touch, a warm bath, a small square of dark chocolate, a soothing scent. Effects arrive in seconds, though they don't last, and the levers are powerful enough to be abused.

  • Music shifts emotion within seconds; pre-build pump-up playlists
  • Match the music to your goal: don't reach for sad songs if you want to stop feeling sad
  • Affectionate (non-creepy) touch regulates emotion quickly, more so with loved ones
  • Watch for unhealthy sensory use like emotional overeating; titrate the dose

Music is a powerful, powerful emotional shifter. You get effects within seconds.

Ethan Kross
#sensory shifters#music#touch#taste#smell
Tool

Savoring: the opposite of distancing for good feelings

For positive states you do the reverse of distancing: zoom in and immerse. Kross calls this savoring, and it's his sleeping pill. Since his first daughter was born he falls asleep by replaying a wonderful moment in concrete detail. He also 'co-savors' by recounting good news to people who ask for the details and help him relish it, driving and prolonging the positive state.

  • For positive emotions, immerse rather than distance
  • Replay a good moment in concrete, specific detail to deepen the feeling
  • Co-savoring with someone who wants the details amplifies it
  • Kross uses savoring a happy memory of his kids to fall asleep

We want to like just bring that experience really close and stay with it. So... what I'm describing right now is what we often refer…

Ethan Kross
#savoring#positive emotions#gratitude#sleep

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway

The COVID anxiety study: there is no single tool

Kross's lab tracked people daily through the pandemic, asking which of 18 tools they used and measuring anxiety. Two insights emerged: people seldom used just one tool, averaging three to four a day; and there was enormous variability in which tools actually helped, differing person to person and day to day. Science can't yet predict that variability, so the practical answer is to self-experiment.

  • People used three to four tools on average, not one
  • The tools that helped varied hugely across people and across days for the same person
  • Predicting the optimal combination is the current research frontier
  • The actionable move is to sample tools and keep what works for you

the three or four things that I benefited from on one day were different from the three or four things that you benefited from on…

Ethan Kross
#covid study#self-experimentation#tools#variability