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Alex DatePsych02 November 2023

Why Is Everyone Choosing To Stay Single? - Alex DatePsych - #701

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 5

Myth Buster16:30

Incels Overrate Looks and Money, Underrate Kindness and Humor

Referencing William Costello's recent study, Alex and Chris discuss findings that incels significantly overestimate how much women value physical attractiveness and financial prospects while underestimating the importance of intelligence, kindness, and humor — and that they misjudge women's overall minimum standards.

  • Incels overestimate importance of looks and money to women
  • Incels underestimate importance of intelligence, kindness, and humor
  • Incels underestimate women's overall minimum mate-preference standards
  • Part of 'black pill' ideology that Alex says is often unfalsifiable

incels significantly overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness and financial prospects to women and underestimated the importance of intelligence kindness and humor

Chris · 17:00
#incels#black-pill#mate-preferences
Myth Buster18:00

Looks Barely Predict Lifetime Sexual Partners — Dominance Does More

Alex's own meta-analysis found only a very small effect (Hedges' G ≈ 0.14) of physical attractiveness on lifetime sexual partner count. He argues behavioral dominance, aggression, athleticism, and risk-seeking are stronger predictors than looks alone.

  • Meta-analysis: physical attractiveness → lifetime sexual partners has a very small effect (Hedges' G ~0.14)
  • Behavioral dominance (aggression, competitive sports, athleticism) predicts partner count better than looks
  • Effect likely runs through risk-tolerance/risk-seeking — these men approach more
  • Dark Triad traits and psychopathy also correlate with more partners, likely via risk tolerance, not attractiveness

I did a meta analysis looking at lifetime sexual partners and physical attractiveness and the effect was very small it had a Hedges G of…

Alex · 18:00
#attractiveness#meta-analysis#dominance
Myth Buster25:00

Most People Are Not Using Dating Apps for Hookups

Alex debunks the popular belief that dating apps are primarily hookup marketplaces. Only 20-30% of users (of both sexes) report using apps for casual sex, with the large majority — including most men — seeking long-term relationships.

  • Only 20-30% of dating app users say they're using apps for hookups
  • About 70% of men report they're looking for a long-term relationship, not casual sex
  • Match rates skew heavily toward women due to app gender ratios (as high as 7:1 men to women)
  • Looking beyond matches to actual messages/meetups, success ratios even out closer to 1:1

most people use online dating to facilitate long-term relationships between 20 30% tend to say okay I'm using it as a hookup app

Alex · 25:00
#online-dating#dating-apps#myths
Myth Buster56:00

Women Initiate More Divorces — But That Doesn't Mean They Cause Them

Responding to a viral tweet claiming women's higher divorce-initiation rate reflects moral failing, Alex breaks down why the statistic is misleading: men cheat and abuse substances at higher rates, are more likely to stay in bad relationships until the end, and most divorces are mutually recognized as over well before filing.

  • Divorce risk is not a flat 50% — it's heavily driven by individual/relationship factors like infidelity, substance abuse, and finances
  • Men self-report cheating at roughly twice the rate of women and are more likely to have substance abuse issues
  • Men are more likely to stay in bad relationships and less likely to be the one to file, even when they want out
  • Surveyed divorced couples show high mutual agreement that the relationship was over, regardless of who filed first — unilateral 'blindsided' divorces are rare
  • Divorced women, not men, are more likely to fall into poverty afterward, contradicting the 'women profit from divorce' narrative

the fact that women initiate 80% of divorce is evidence that some manifestations of evil are more common in women

Chris · 57:30

the risk of getting divorced is not 50% that's going to be determined a great deal by the individual characteristics within that relationship

Alex · 56:30
#divorce#marriage#myths
Myth Buster75:30

Stated vs Revealed Preferences: Liberal Women Still Want Traditional Dating Behavior

Alex explains that even women who politically identify as left-leaning or feminist tend to rate men higher on 'benevolent sexism' traits — holding doors, paying on dates, traditional gender-coded behavior — showing a gap between women's stated political preferences and their revealed dating preferences.

  • Research shows women broadly prefer men who score higher in 'benevolent sexism' (traditional courtesy behaviors)
  • This holds even among women who identify as more politically left
  • Behaviors like paying the bill, holding doors, driving, and picking the restaurant remain broadly expected/desired
  • Chris connects this to viral TikToks of liberal women wanting traditionally-coded dating behavior despite disliking conservative men

women prefer men who score a little bit higher in benevolent sexism... even if the women identify as more left

Alex · 76:00
#stated-vs-revealed-preferences#benevolent-sexism#gender-roles

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take42:00

The 'Better Dads' Theory of Why Women Like Dad Bods

Chris shares a theory he got flak for online: a lean, highly attractive man has more external mating opportunities to 'spend' resources on outside a relationship, whereas a dad-bod man has fewer alternative options — making him a safer long-term investment. Alex agrees this fits the long-term vs short-term mating distinction.

  • Theory: attractive/lean men have more outside mating opportunities ('more doorways of infidelity open')
  • Dad-bod men have fewer alternative mating options, signaling reduced infidelity risk
  • This reframes 'dad bod' preference as a long-term investment signal, not just a comfort signal
  • Fits broader pattern: women's stated preferences skew toward long-term mate selection, not short-term fantasy

dad bods are an indication of better dads was the thought that he's not going to spend his calorie trying to chase after some 21-year-old

Chris · 42:30

dad bods are indicative of better dads I think that's very insightful and important

Alex · 43:00
#dad-bod#evolutionary-psychology#infidelity

Explainer· 12

Explainer00:00

Why Even Confident Men Get Nervous Approaching Women

Alex explains his survey research on risk aversion, finding a strong positive correlation between risk-averse personality traits and unwillingness to approach women for dates. Fear of social rejection and reputational loss (rather than legal consequences) was the dominant fear reported, and even highly confident men report at least some nervousness before approaching.

  • Risk aversion correlates positively with unwillingness to approach women romantically
  • Primary fears were social rejection/loss of reputation, not legal consequences
  • Even the most confident men feel some nervousness before approaching
  • Pickup-artist communities effectively gamified exposure therapy for approach anxiety

the most confident man it doesn't matter they're going to be a little bit nervous at least approaching a woman

Alex · 02:00

it's [ __ ] mortal it's reality bending it's so strange

Chris · 01:30
#risk-aversion#approach-anxiety#dating-psychology
Explainer08:30

Why 'Agentic' Men Struggle Less in Dating

Alex shares unpublished data showing a correlation between locus of control and self-reported dating difficulty: people with a more internal locus of control (belief they can shape outcomes) report fewer dating struggles. Chris connects this to William Costello's recent research finding incels have a strongly externalized locus of control.

  • Higher internal locus of control correlates with fewer self-reported dating difficulties
  • External locus of control = belief that things 'just happen to me'
  • Costello's incel research found a wildly externalized locus of control in that population

individuals that have a higher internal locus of control that are more agentic they tend to report that they have fewer difficulties dating

Alex · 08:30

William Costello's most recent post about incels found a wildly externalized locus of control

Chris · 09:00
#locus-of-control#incels#agency
Explainer09:30

What People Actually Say Is Holding Them Back in Dating

Alex surveyed people on their biggest dating struggles and found fear of rejection and poor dating-app performance were common for men, while a striking ~70% of women rated 'can't find someone I'm intellectually attracted to' highly, alongside complaints about excessive sexual pressure and difficulty finding physical attraction.

  • Men commonly cited fear of rejection and poor dating-app performance
  • ~70% of women scored highly on 'can't find someone I'm intellectually attracted to' (unexpectedly high)
  • Many women reported feeling significant sexual pressure/demand
  • Women scored higher (medium effect, Cohen's d ~0.6) on difficulty finding someone physically attractive enough

about 70% of women scored highly... and said I can't find someone that I'm intellectually attracted to

Alex · 10:00
#dating-struggles#survey-data#intellectual-compatibility
Explainer12:30

Why 'Intellectual Compatibility' Might Really Mean Conversational Fluency

Alex unpacks what women likely mean by 'intellectual compatibility' — not raw IQ, but the ability to connect emotionally and mentally, related to social cognition and theory of mind. He links this to a sex difference in verbal intelligence that may make it harder for some men to hold engaging conversations.

  • Men interpret 'intellectual compatibility' as IQ; women likely mean connection, relatability, and not being boring
  • Related to 'theory of mind'/social cognition — reading another person's emotional state
  • Men tend to score higher in visuospatial intelligence, women higher in verbal intelligence
  • This verbal-fluency gap may explain why women struggle to find men who can 'hold a conversation'

men tend to score a little bit higher in visuospatial but women tend to score a little bit higher in verbal intelligence

Alex · 14:30
#intellectual-compatibility#sex-differences#communication
Explainer23:00

Looks Are a Threshold to Clear, Not a Score to Maximize

Alex reframes physical attractiveness as a pass/fail threshold rather than a continuous multiplier: once someone clears the 'looks test,' other qualities (competence, personality, intelligence) determine dating success far more than further gains in attractiveness.

  • Looks function as a threshold ('pass the looks test') rather than a linear, ever-increasing bonus
  • Passing the threshold doesn't guarantee dating success if other qualities are missing
  • Women's ratings of male faces vary far more than men's ratings of female faces — meaning most men aren't attractive to most women, but only need to appeal to some

it's better to understand looks as kind of a threshold like a bar that must be met rather than something... that just keeps returning exponential…

Alex · 23:00
#attractiveness#threshold-effect#face-research
Explainer34:30

Why Women Say They Prefer the Dad Bod

Alex explains research and his own survey on why women often say they prefer a 'dad bod' over a stage-lean bodybuilder physique, even though jacked physiques dominate female erotic fantasy material like romance novel covers. Women cited concerns about narcissism, insecurity, and infidelity risk with very muscular men.

  • Women often prefer 'dad bod' men in stated long-term preference, even though jacked men dominate romance-novel/erotica imagery
  • Reasons given: fear the muscular man is narcissistic, will make her insecure, or will cheat
  • Very extreme bodybuilder physiques are rarely preferred; a leaner-but-still-muscular 'fitness model' body triggers similar concerns
  • Evolutionary framing: a strong/imposing man offers protection but also represents a bigger physical threat

a lot of it was like ah the bodybuilder he comes across is narcissistic he he would make me insecure he might cheat on me

Alex · 35:30
#dad-bod#body-image#attraction
Explainer44:30

The Libido Gap: One of Psychology's Largest Sex Differences

Alex describes the 'libido gap' — a large, well-replicated sex difference in sexual desire, attitudes, and behavior. Men show higher desire for partner variety, more frequent sex, more open attitudes to casual sex, and cheat more often, with testosterone as a key driver.

  • Libido gap is one of the largest and most consistent sex differences in behavioral psychology (medium effect, ~0.5)
  • Men show higher desire for sexual variety, frequency, and openness to casual sex
  • Men consistently cheat more than women across studies and countries
  • Men respond more strongly to erotic imagery in attention/fMRI studies; testosterone administration raises libido in both sexes

men have a higher libido men have a higher desire to have sex with more people sex more frequently

Alex · 45:00
#libido#sex-differences#testosterone
Explainer48:00

The Ideal Body Count Isn't Zero — For Either Sex

Alex's survey research shows both men and women prefer partners with a moderate number of past partners (around 2-4), not zero — virginity itself is often viewed as a mild red flag. Tolerance is high until body count gets extreme (~20 for women, ~40 for men), and few people actually stop dating someone over it.

  • Ideal body count is roughly 2-4 for both sexes, not zero — virginity in a partner is a mild red flag on average
  • People are broadly tolerant of higher counts (up to ~20 for women, ~40 for men) before it's seen as a deal breaker
  • ~10% of men/women have stopped dating someone after learning their body count; even lower once in a committed relationship
  • Sexual double standards (promiscuous men praised, promiscuous women judged) are narrowing except around sexual assault/minors, where they've mostly disappeared

people seem to be pretty tolerant of higher body counts... upwards of 40 for a man and that's when people tend to start saying uh…

Alex · 49:30
#body-count#sexual-double-standards#mate-preferences
Explainer66:30

Passionate Love Fades After 3-5 Years — And That's Normal

Alex explains that neurobiological 'passionate love' typically wanes after roughly 3-5 years, coinciding with typical child-rearing timelines, while humans' dominant historical mating pattern is serial monogamy rather than lifelong pair bonding — a mismatch with modern cultural expectations of marriage-for-life.

  • Passionate/romantic love typically fades after about 3-5 years together
  • This timeline roughly tracks the point kids become somewhat more independent
  • Humans' historical norm appears to be serial monogamy, not lifelong single-partner bonding
  • Serial monogamy may also increase genetic diversity of offspring across a lifetime

that tends to wane after about 3 to 5 years

Alex · 67:00
#love#serial-monogamy#evolutionary-psychology
Explainer71:00

Why 'The Normie Gets the Girl' — Not the Ideologue

Alex describes his vignette study testing women's attraction to men with different ideological profiles: hostile sexists and 'manosphere/black pill' men rated lowest, but highly egalitarian/feminist men rated only medium. The most attractive profile was a 'normie' with unremarkable, non-ideological views on gender.

  • Vignette study rated men as hostile sexist, benevolent sexist, manosphere/black pill, feminist/egalitarian, or 'normie'
  • 'Normie' men with no strong gender ideology rated highest for attractiveness
  • Benevolent sexist (traditional but not hostile) men rated second highest
  • Hostile sexist and manosphere/black pill men rated lowest; feminist-identifying women rated egalitarian men only slightly higher, pattern held regardless of the woman's own politics

women don't want someone who is super egalitarian or someone who is super feminist necessarily in a man they don't want a man at the…

Alex · 72:00
#ideology#attractiveness#manosphere
Explainer84:30

Clinginess, Not 'Gross,' Is Women's Biggest Dating Red Flag

Alex's research on six major dating red flags (gross, clingy, addicted, promiscuous, apathetic, unmotivated) found clinginess rated as the single biggest red flag for women — more than physical repulsion — possibly because it signals dependency, low independence, and even stalker-like risk.

  • Six studied red-flag categories: gross, clingy, addicted, promiscuous, apathetic, unmotivated
  • Clinginess rated as the #1 red flag for women, surprising given women's typically higher disgust sensitivity
  • Possible explanations: women want a partner they can depend on rather than one needing emotional caretaking; clinginess may also signal volatility/stalker risk
  • Early-relationship clinginess reads very differently than the same behavior (e.g., frequent texting) once a couple is established and committed

the highest rated one was clinginess that that's the biggest red flag for women

Alex · 87:00
#red-flags#clinginess#dating-research
Explainer91:30

What Actually Drives the Age-Gap Relationship Taboo

Alex's research on age-gap disapproval found no difference in disapproval by women's own age, but found younger men disapprove of age-gap relationships more than older men — consistent with younger men feeling women are being 'pulled' out of their dating pool by older men, plus a broader unexplained 'ick' reaction that people rationalize after the fact.

  • No age-based difference found in women's disapproval of age-gap relationships
  • Younger men disapprove of age-gap relationships more than older men
  • Consistent with an intersexual-competition theory: young men feel women are pulled out of their dating pool by older men
  • Power-imbalance framing (e.g., boss/employee) doesn't predict disapproval as strongly as age gaps do, suggesting much of the taboo is a visceral 'ick' rationalized after the fact
  • People who've actually had age-gap relationships approve of them more, not less — contradicting a 'learned from bad experience' explanation

young men disapproved of age gaps more than older men

Alex · 92:30

there is this taboo that's not entirely explained and I think it might just come down to kind of an ick in a sense for…

Alex · 93:30
#age-gap#dating-taboos#evolutionary-psychology

Story· 4

Story27:00

The Fake-Profile Study on Who Stays Single

Alex and Chris discuss a study using fictitious online dating profiles with manipulated education and attractiveness levels, sent to real daters. The clearest losers were unattractive, low-educated men and unattractive, highly-educated women — highlighting an asymmetric role of education in each sex's dating success.

  • Both sexes prefer attractive over unattractive profiles regardless of their own attractiveness
  • Highly educated men and women both prefer partners who match or exceed their own education level
  • Unattractive/low-educated men and unattractive/high-educated women are most likely to stay single
  • Higher education for either sex correlates with lower divorce rates and higher relationship satisfaction

we also find that high educated men prefer low educated over High educated profiles as much as high educated women prefer high educated over low…

Chris · 27:30

be attractive be educated go back to school

Chris · 28:00
#online-dating#education#attractiveness#study
Story33:30

The Data Scientist Who A/B Tested His Own Look — and Leaned Into 'Nerdy'

Chris tells the story of Seth Stevens-Davidowitz, who split-tested different versions of his appearance (beard/no beard, glasses, hairstyle) and found that leaning further into his 'nerdy' look produced more extreme positive attraction results from women, illustrating that niching down can outperform trying to appeal broadly.

  • Seth used split-testing to find which version of his appearance women responded to best
  • The more he leaned into a nerdy aesthetic, the stronger the positive response
  • His now-partner told friends she specifically loved 'nerds' before they met
  • Diluting a distinctive look to appeal to the 'average' could have cost him his best match

the more that he leaned into his nerdy look the more extreme attraction results he got back

Chris · 33:30

I love nerds I'm really really super attracted to nerds

Chris · 34:00
#self-experimentation#attraction#niching
Story69:30

An Evolutionary Theory for Why Childless Couples Randomly Fall Out of Love

Chris shares a theory that couples who stay together a long time without having children can unexpectedly fall out of love, because ancestrally the only reason a couple wouldn't have conceived by then is a fertility issue with one partner — creating unconscious pressure to move on and test with someone new.

  • Ancestrally, a long childless relationship almost always signaled a fertility problem with one partner
  • Neither partner knows which of them is infertile, creating an unconscious incentive to seek a new partner
  • This may explain unexplained 'falling out of love' in couples who delay having kids
  • Relevant risk for couples who plan to delay children into their 30s

you definitely know that there is a 50% chance that you're going to have this problem fixed if you decide to move on

Chris · 69:30
#fertility#evolutionary-psychology#relationships
Story77:30

The Call Her Daddy Paradox: Preaching Casual Sex, Living the Rose-Garden Proposal

Chris tells the story of podcaster Alex Cooper, who built a brand extolling casual sex and dismissing relationships, while privately in a long-term relationship that culminated in an elaborately romantic proposal — a case study in the gap between publicly performed dating advice and privately revealed preferences.

  • Alex Cooper's public persona promoted casual sex and downplayed relationships/marriage
  • She was privately in a long-term relationship for years, culminating in a storybook proposal
  • Chris frames viral hypocrisy callouts as effective because of the clear 'before/after' contrast they create
  • Illustrates broader theme: what's socially rewarded to say online vs. what people actually want in relationships

this wasn't the story that you promised your audience

Chris · 78:00
#hypocrisy#social-media#relationships

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway06:30

Half of Young Men Haven't Approached a Woman in a Year — But Those Who Do, Win

Alex cites his own survey finding that roughly 50% of men aged 18-30 haven't approached a woman romantically in the past year. Of the men who did approach, a large majority got a date, phone number, or romantic connection, with lower but still meaningful conversion to sex and long-term relationships.

  • ~50% of men 18-30 haven't approached a woman in the last year
  • Of the men who did approach, around 70% got a date, number, or romantic connection
  • About 20% of approaches led to a long-term relationship; conversion to sex was higher than to relationships
  • Chris frames this as a 'white pill': many of the men approaching are just as unsure as those who don't

the men that have approached are doing remarkably well a lot of the men who have approached they they more than half have gotten a…

Alex · 06:30

that's a serious white pill for why you should approach women

Chris · 08:00
#approach-behavior#dating-statistics#confidence