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Alex DatePsych23 February 2023

Why Is No One Having Sex? - Alex DatePsych - #593

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Myth Buster· 6

Myth Buster00:00

The Real Reason Only Top Men Get Matches on Apps

Dating apps have roughly three men for every one woman, so even a perfectly even distribution of attention would leave two-thirds of men matchless. This ratio, not "hot guys hoarding all the women," explains why a small percentage of men appear to get most of the attention.

  • ~3:1 male-to-female ratio on dating apps
  • If matches paired 1:1 evenly, ~66% of men would still get no match
  • The gender disparity alone explains the perception of a small "top tier" monopolizing attention

there's about three men for every one woman... about 66 percent of men would have no match just from the ratio alone

Alex · 00:00
#dating-apps#gender-ratio#sexual-market
Myth Buster01:30

Why Men Fear Approaching Women Who Don't Even Find It Creepy

Alex breaks down conflicting stats: nearly half of single men avoid approaching women for fear of seeming creepy, while a majority of women say they want men to make the first move. Crucially, surveys show approaching a woman politely isn't even on the list of behaviors women rate as creepy — the fear and the reality don't match.

  • ~46% of single men avoid approaching women out of fear of seeming creepy
  • 82-86% of women report experiencing creepy behavior at some point
  • ~86% of women say they want men to make the first move
  • Politely approaching a woman doesn't appear on lists of what women call "creepy"
  • David Buss (Men Behaving Badly): a small cohort of serial offenders commits most creepy behavior — not the men who are too afraid to approach

approaching women by itself didn't make the list of things that women consider to be creepy

Chris · 07:00

it's serial offenders... one man doing a thousand creepy things not a thousand men doing one creepy thing each

Chris · 08:00
#dating#approach-anxiety#creepy-behavior#david-buss
Myth Buster22:30

Dating Apps Didn't Make Women Pickier

A common manosphere claim is that access to endless matches on apps let women raise their standards. A 2018 longitudinal study of Greek/fraternity students — the group expected to benefit most from apps — found only about one extra sexual partner per year after Tinder's release, and STD rates didn't rise either. Alex argues the real driver of singleness is more likely people opting out or a general drop in perceived mate value (e.g., obesity).

  • 2018 study on fraternity/sorority students found ~1 extra partner/year post-Tinder, not a huge shift
  • STD rates didn't rise in that period (though they have risen more recently among 15-16 year olds)
  • Alex is skeptical dating apps meaningfully raised female selectivity
  • Possible alternative explanation: falling overall attraction/mate value (e.g. obesity epidemic) rather than rising standards
#dating-apps#female-standards#myth#tinder
Myth Buster36:30

The Most Attractive Women Actually Report Fewer Sexual Partners

Contrary to the "hot women are the most promiscuous" narrative, research shows medium-attractiveness women report more partners on average, while the most attractive women report fewer. Alex explains this through evolutionary logic: highly attractive women can be selective and don't need to use sex to secure a mate, while moderately attractive women may lean on it more.

  • Most attractive women report fewer sexual partners than moderately attractive women
  • Explained by selectivity: very attractive women have abundant options and don't need sex to secure a partner
  • Moderately attractive women may use sex more instrumentally to secure a mate
  • Least attractive women may struggle to find a mate at all
#attractiveness#promiscuity#evolutionary-psychology
Myth Buster38:30

The "Ovulating Women Seek Alpha Genes" Theory Didn't Replicate

The long-dominant "dual mating hypothesis" — that ovulating women seek short-term flings with high-testosterone men for good genes while pair-bonding long-term with providers — has largely failed to replicate, according to its own original author David Buss. The newer "mate-switching hypothesis" suggests apparent short-term mating is usually women searching for a new long-term partner, not a separate genetic strategy.

  • Original "dual mating hypothesis" (ovulation shifts attraction to high-T men) hasn't replicated
  • The testosterone-immunocompetence "handicap" theory behind it also hasn't held up
  • David Buss himself walked the theory back in a 2021 paper, but the theory persists online anyway
  • New "mate-switching hypothesis": short-term mating is usually a search for a better long-term partner, not a distinct strategy
  • ~70%+ of women who have affairs report being in love with the affair partner
#evolutionary-psychology#mating-strategy#david-buss#replication
Myth Buster48:00

The Gigachad Face Isn't What Women Actually Want

Alex ran a survey using the "Gigachad" meme — an extremely dimorphic, hyper-masculine face — and found men overwhelmingly rated him attractive while most women did not. His broader research shows facial averageness (symmetric, non-extreme features) predicts attractiveness better than extreme masculine dimorphism, meaning men often misjudge what women find attractive.

  • Survey using the "Gigachad" meme face: most men rated him attractive, most women did not
  • Extreme facial dimorphism (big brow, big chin) isn't the most attractive trait for women
  • "Averageness" — symmetric, non-extreme features — predicts attractiveness better than hyper-masculinity
  • Individual variation in attractiveness ratings is much larger than aggregate agreement suggests (low pairwise ICC correlation)
#facial-attractiveness#gigachad#dimorphism#misconceptions

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take64:00

The Guys Who Invented Red-Pill Dating Culture All Settled Down and Got Married

Chris points out the irony that Neil Strauss (author of The Game) and Tucker Max (creator of "fratire") both ended up in stable long-term family life, while online communities they helped spawn remain steeped in bitterness toward relationships. He argues viral Reddit horror stories about ruinous relationships get outsized attention precisely because they're rare and shocking, distorting young men's perception of how relationships typically go.

  • Neil Strauss (The Game) and Tucker Max (fratire) both settled into long-term family life
  • Viral "my wife destroyed my life" Reddit stories get attention because they're extreme outliers, not representative
  • Young men (18-20) with no real relationship history are absorbing divorce/financial-ruin fears that don't apply to them yet
  • Chris: worry about forming a relationship and building resilience first, worry about divorce risk later

even the most red pilly of red pill guys get into long-term marriage relationships

Chris · 65:00
#red-pill#neil-strauss#tucker-max#reddit#perception
Hot Take85:00

You're Not Competing With the Opposite Sex — You're Competing Within Your Own

Chris argues the most important lesson missing from online dating discourse is that people primarily compete within their own sex (intrasexual competition) for status and mates, not against the opposite sex. Treating the opposite sex as an "adversary" rather than a collaborator, he says, sabotages relationships from the outset — and he's skeptical of any online voice that builds community by identifying an out-group to hate.

  • Intrasexual competition (men vs men, women vs women) drives most social behavior — gossip, posturing, status signaling
  • Framing the opposite sex as an adversary rather than an ally undermines relationship success from the start
  • Chris is skeptical of anyone who builds an audience primarily by uniting people against an "out-group"
  • Applies equally to "red pill"/manosphere and "pink pill"/female dating strategy communities

anybody online who generates goodwill toward themselves by primarily identifying an out group that you're all supposed to hate is someone that immediately I'm super…

Chris · 86:00
#intrasexual-competition#manosphere#dating-advice#grift

Explainer· 6

Explainer02:30

Most Couples Still Don't Meet Through Apps

Despite the perception that dating apps dominate modern romance, Kinsey Institute/Match and Pew data show only about 10-20% of people actually meet partners through online dating apps, with another ~20% meeting through social media. The rest still meet through work, school, and friends.

  • Only ~10-20% of singles meet through dating apps (Kinsey/Match, Pew data)
  • Another ~20% (under 30) meet via social media
  • Friends account for ~20-30% of how people meet
  • Combined, roughly two out of five new relationships start through some online medium
#dating-apps#statistics#how-couples-meet
Explainer16:00

Falling Alcohol Use Explains 30% of the Rise in Sexlessness

Alex cites research attributing a large chunk of rising youth sexlessness to declining alcohol and drug use since the 90s, combined with an "extended adolescence" where fewer young people work, drive, or leave home early. Lower risk tolerance across the board — not just around alcohol — appears to be suppressing casual sex and relationship formation.

  • ~30% of the variance in rising sexlessness attributed to lower alcohol consumption
  • Young people are drinking and using drugs at much lower rates than in the 90s
  • Fewer teens/young adults have jobs, driver's licenses, or start college at typical ages
  • Broader decline in risk tolerance (not just alcohol) mirrors the drop in casual sex
#sexlessness#alcohol#risk-aversion#gen-z
Explainer24:30

The "Tall Girl Problem": Why Female Success Shrinks the Dating Pool

As women increasingly out-earn and out-educate men, hypergamous preference for a partner of equal-or-higher status becomes harder to satisfy — creating what Chris calls the "tall girl problem." Alex adds a striking asymmetry: while a man's mate value roughly doubles with higher status, a woman would need something like a thousand-fold income increase to gain equivalent mate-value benefit, and being the primary breadwinner is even associated with a partner's higher use of ED medication.

  • Women are increasingly out-earning/out-educating men, shrinking the pool of "higher status" partners
  • Chris calls this the "tall girl problem" — fewer men are "up and across" on the status hierarchy
  • A man's mate value roughly doubles with status gains; a woman needs a "thousand-fold" income increase for equivalent effect
  • Being the non-primary breadwinner correlates with higher ED medication use in male partners

the woman would need to have a thousand-fold increase in her income in order to be able to make the same changing mate value

Alex · 26:30
#hypergamy#status#income#mate-value
Explainer54:00

How Pickup Artist Communities Fed Into Incel Forums

Alex references a network-analysis study ("Mapping the Manosphere") tracking how users migrated from declining PUA/red-pill forums into rising incel and MGTOW communities. Even when pickup "worked," it often left men feeling like only a performed role was ever loved, and when it didn't work, it read as proof the whole enterprise was a scam — pushing many toward hopelessness.

  • Study tracked ~52 manosphere-adjacent forums and found users cross-migrating from PUA/red-pill to incel/MGTOW communities as the former declined
  • Even "successful" pickup could be dispiriting: it taught men the persona, not their real self, was what got attraction
  • One of the earliest incel forums was literally named "PUA Hate"
  • Resilience (or lack of it) shapes whether repeated rejection during PUA practice radicalizes someone toward black-pill views

pickup to me seemed like an unfalsifiably disheartening approach to dating

Chris · 55:00
#pickup-artist#incel#manosphere#mgtow
Explainer76:00

Why Women's Libido Drops Faster Than Men's Over a Relationship

Data shared in the conversation shows women's low sexual desire climbs steadily by relationship length (21.5% under 1 year to 40% at 15+ years) while men's stays comparatively flat. Alex offers a few explanations: the initial libido gap, the "orgasm gap" meaning bad sex is more costly for women, aging/attractiveness decline for both partners, and possibly hormonal birth control shifting mate preferences and later satisfaction.

  • Women's low-desire rate roughly doubles from year 1 (~21.5%) to 15+ years (~40%); men stay closer to 13-16%
  • Orgasm/pleasure gap means women more easily fall into "sex is a chore" territory when satisfaction drops
  • General aging and declining physical attractiveness affects both partners' libido over time
  • Coming off hormonal birth control (after selecting a partner while on it) is linked to lower reported sexual satisfaction

sex to men is like pizza — there is good sex and there is sex — whereas to women there is such a thing as…

Chris · 80:00
#libido#relationship-length#birth-control#orgasm-gap
Explainer88:30

Contempt Is the #1 Predictor of Divorce

Citing marriage researcher John Gottman's "Four Horsemen" work, Alex notes contempt topped the list of behaviors that predicted divorce with striking accuracy — and it's exactly the emotion baked into red-pill and pink-pill communities that frame the opposite sex as an enemy, setting relationships up to fail before they start.

  • Gottman's "Four Horsemen of the Divorce Apocalypse" could predict divorce with ~90% accuracy in his studies
  • Contempt ranked as the single strongest predictor among the four
  • Communities built on contempt for the opposite sex are, per this research, priming their members for relationship failure
#gottman#divorce#contempt#relationship-research

Story· 2

Story14:00

How Bill Gates Asked Out His Receptionist (and Why That Story Would End a Career Today)

Chris tells the story of how Bill Gates called Melinda, then a Microsoft receptionist, on the internal phone to ask her out; when she rebuffed his "spontaneity," he called back 30 minutes later and cleared her afternoon. They frame it as illustrative of how workplace romance — and persistence read as playful rather than predatory — has become nearly impossible to defend publicly today.

  • Bill Gates called receptionist Melinda on the internal office line to ask her out
  • She initially deflected ("you're not spontaneous enough"); he called back with a spontaneous gesture
  • The relationship lasted decades, illustrating workplace romance's historical prevalence
  • Framed as an example of behavior that would now be branded "creepy" despite being welcomed

how's this for spontaneous? you've got the rest of the afternoon off

Chris · 14:00
#workplace-romance#dating-history#metoo
Story51:00

The Data Scientist Who A/B Tested His Own Dating Profile

Chris recounts how Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (author of Everybody Lies) split-tested his own appearance — beard, glasses, hair length — to optimize his dating profile, then landed a girlfriend who told friends she specifically loved "nerds." The takeaway: polarizing some people in your favor beats being universally just-okay.

  • Seth Stephens-Davidowitz split-tested beard/glasses/hairstyle combinations for his dating profile
  • Ended up with a girlfriend who said she had "such a soft spot for nerds"
  • Lesson: aim to make some people love your look rather than being broadly just-acceptable to everyone
  • Chris generalizes this to personality too — lean into being distinctly "the guitar guy" or "the funny guy" rather than chasing generic hyper-masculinity
#dating-profile#self-optimization#seth-stephens-davidowitz