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Dr Euan Lawson11 June 2018

Your Desk Is Killing You; How To Reduce Workplace Pain And Become More Productive - Dr Euan Lawson - #017

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster08:00

Why 'sitting is the new smoking' is messier than it sounds

The link between sitting itself and poor health is genuinely hard to prove, because active people simply enjoy better outcomes and confounders like smoking, drinking and social class muddy the data. Coal miners were intensely active yet died young; sedentary CEOs often live long, healthy lives. What's solid is that being physically active lowers cardiovascular and diabetes risk — so tackling inactivity, not sitting in the abstract, is the real priority.

  • It's hard to show that sitting as an isolated activity is bad for you
  • Active people clearly live longer with less cardiovascular disease and diabetes
  • Coal miners were very active but died young; sedentary CEOs often stay healthy
  • Confounders like smoking, drinking and social level distort the research
  • One academic review still concluded inactivity and sitting cause deaths

it's harder to prove that just sitting as an activity is actually bad for you

Dr. Lawson · 09:00

it's reasonable to say sitting is killing people

Dr. Lawson · 11:30
#sedentary#longevity#exercise#evidence
Myth Buster53:30

Standing desks, Swiss balls and treadmill desks: what the evidence says

Dr. Lawson rates the fancy solutions honestly. Swiss balls have almost no evidence — any benefit is just that you can't slouch on one, a position you could replicate in a normal chair. Standing desks show a little evidence for back pain but nothing dramatic. Treadmill desks have the strongest data, improving cholesterol and blood-glucose markers, but they measurably reduce cognitive capacity, so they suit low-level admin, not deep work.

  • Swiss balls: little evidence; benefit is just being forced to sit upright
  • Standing desks: mild evidence for back pain, nothing dramatic
  • Treadmill desks have the best data — improved cholesterol and glucose markers
  • Treadmill desks cut cognitive capacity, so they suit admin not deep work
  • Variety across all of them may be the real benefit

there's not an awful lot of evidence for Swiss balls... it's just forcing you into a position that you could replicate on a normal seat

Dr. Lawson · 55:30

there was a reduction you saw a cognitive capacity when you're on a treadmill desk

Dr. Lawson · 57:30
#standing-desk#swiss-ball#treadmill-desk#evidence

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take33:30

Multitasking is for muppets — we're built to be serial focusers

Dr. Lawson is blunt: there's not a shred of evidence you can multitask as effectively as focusing on one thing. Humans are designed to be serial focusers, and the intense bursts of single-task work — the deep work Cal Newport describes — are both more productive and more satisfying. Chris frames it as being monogamous, not polyamorous, with your tasks: one at a time.

  • No evidence multitasking matches single-task focus
  • Humans are built to be serial focusers
  • Intense single-task bursts produce deep work and real satisfaction
  • Echoes Cal Newport's deep-work argument
  • Chris: be monogamous, not polyamorous, with your tasks

multitasking is for Muppets that's my thing not my approach

Dr. Lawson · 34:00

we are monogamous when it comes to most optimal workflow... a task is for one at a time

Chris Williamson · 35:30
#multitasking#focus#deep-work#productivity

Explainer· 4

Explainer13:00

Laptops are ergonomically toxic by design

Dr. Lawson calls the laptop the ergonomic equivalent of junk food: it puts you in all the wrong positions at once. The fixed keyboard forces the wrists into contorted angles, and because the screen sits inches above the keys, you either crane your neck down or press your face close to the display. Everything that makes a laptop portable makes it bad for your body over a full working day.

  • A laptop forces wrists, neck and eyes into bad positions simultaneously
  • The keyboard being fixed under the screen is the root problem
  • The screen is naturally far too low, dragging the neck down
  • Its closeness also worsens eye strain because your face is tethered to it
  • The fix is to detach inputs and raise the screen

they are the toxic equivalent economically they are pretty horrific and they put you in all the wrong position completely

Dr. Lawson · 13:00
#laptops#ergonomics#posture#neck-pain
Explainer20:30

The two types of RSI, and why one is far harder to fix

Dr. Lawson splits repetitive strain injury into two. Type 1 has a distinct diagnosis and clear treatment — carpal tunnel syndrome, where the median nerve is compressed at the wrist, or tenosynovitis, treatable with injections or even surgery. Type 2 is diffuse: numbness, aches, pins and needles with no single cause and no clean pattern, which frustrates patients and doctors alike because there's no definitive fix.

  • Type 1 RSI has a clear diagnosis and treatment (e.g. carpal tunnel, tenosynovitis)
  • Carpal tunnel is compression of the median nerve at the wrist
  • Type 2 RSI is diffuse numbness, aches and pins-and-needles with no single cause
  • Type 2 fits no clean pattern, so there's no definitive injection or operation
  • You can suffer from both types at once

RSI type one is easy... the classic example is carpal tunnel syndrome

Dr. Lawson · 21:00

RSI type two which is a whole world of pain... there's not a single cause

Dr. Lawson · 22:00
#rsi#carpal-tunnel#diagnosis#wrists
Explainer36:30

Screens cut your blink rate by around 60%

Normally you blink around 12-15 times a minute, but staring at a screen drops that to five or six — roughly a 60% reduction. Blinking spreads the tear film that keeps the cornea moist and clears debris, so suppressing it leaves eyes gritty, itchy and irritable, as if sprinkled with sand. In extreme non-screen cases like facial nerve palsy, an eye that can't close dries out and the cornea can ulcerate.

  • Baseline blink rate is about 12-15 per minute
  • Screen focus cuts it to five or six per minute, a ~60% reduction
  • Tears keep the cornea moist and clear debris
  • Suppressed blinking causes gritty, itchy, sandy-feeling eyes
  • Sitting back and using artificial tears both help

you only blink about sort of five or six times a minute... you're talking about like a 60% reduction

Dr. Lawson · 37:00
#eye-strain#blinking#dry-eyes#screen-time
Explainer58:30

How leaning forward nearly doubles spinal disc pressure

Citing data from the biohacker's handbook (sourced to Nachemson & Elfström 1997), Chris lays out disc pressure between the L3-L4 vertebrae by posture: 100% standing, 140% sitting at 90 degrees, and up to 190% leaning forward at 80 degrees. The forward-hunched library posture roughly doubles disc load. Dr. Lawson's caveat: it's a proxy marker — high momentary pressure doesn't reliably predict who develops back pain later.

  • Standing = 100% baseline disc pressure (L3-L4)
  • Sitting upright at 90 degrees ≈ 140%
  • Leaning forward at 80 degrees ≈ 190%
  • The hunched, feet-tucked library posture roughly doubles disc load
  • It's only a proxy marker — pressure doesn't reliably predict future back pain

at ninety degrees a hundred and forty percent and at eighty degrees a hundred and ninety percent

Chris Williamson · 59:00

it's a slightly proxy marker that it doesn't actually tell you whether you'll get back pain

Dr. Lawson · 60:00
#posture#spine#disc-pressure#back-pain

Story· 1

Story24:30

When new keyboards fail, a whole-body fix can cure RSI

The advice for diffuse RSI isn't to stop working but to change how you work — and often to look beyond the desk entirely. Co-author Joanna Penn had severe RSI and tried every ergonomic mouse and keyboard with no result. What finally fixed it was yoga: improved core strength, better posture and reduced stress-related tension. Dr. Lawson suspects the out-of-work body matters more than the workstation itself.

  • For diffuse RSI, change how you work rather than stopping altogether
  • Joanna Penn tried every ergonomic mouse and keyboard with no effect
  • Yoga completely fixed her RSI via core strength and posture
  • Reducing stress and anxiety-driven tension is part of the mechanism
  • The body outside work may matter more than the workstation setup

in the end what fixed it was a whole body approach and she did yoga... and it totally fixed it

Dr. Lawson · 25:00
#rsi#yoga#core-strength#posture

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway10:00

Weekend-warrior exercise can offset a sedentary week

You can't fully cancel hours of daily sitting with one hard gym session, but the news isn't all bad. Dr. Lawson notes evidence that batching your exercise — the classic weekend-warrior pattern — does seem to help mitigate the harms of an otherwise inactive week. It's not a licence to sit motionless for hours, but concentrated activity still buys real protection.

  • You can't offset all-day sitting by assuming a workout fixes it
  • Batched, weekend-warrior-style exercise does appear to help
  • It mitigates some harm of a relatively inactive week
  • Not a licence to sit still for three-hour stretches

if you do your exercise batched up say at the weekend... that does seem to be helpful

Dr. Lawson · 10:30
#exercise#weekend-warrior#sedentary#mitigation
Takeaway44:00

Digital sunset: get the phone out of the bedroom

Dr. Lawson treats sleep as a superpower and enforces a 'digital sunset' — screens off an hour before a 10pm bedtime. He rates the off switch above screen-tint apps like f.lux. Chris adds his rule: charge the phone across the room and use a separate alarm clock, because you're far more likely to stay put doom-scrolling once you're lying down than when standing. The ideal is a phone-free bedroom.

  • Screens off an hour before bed; Lawson stops at 9pm for a 10pm bedtime
  • The off switch beats tint apps like f.lux
  • Charge the phone across the room and use a standalone alarm clock
  • Lying down with a phone in hand makes you far more likely to stay put
  • The goal is a phone-free bedroom

I go to bed at 10:00 my screens go off at 9:00 Digital Sunset

Dr. Lawson · 44:00

charge the phone over the other side of the room... get an alarm clock that doesn't require you to put an alarm on your phone

Chris Williamson · 48:00
#sleep#digital-sunset#phone#bedroom
Takeaway69:30

Beat procrastination and 'writer's block' with external accountability

Dr. Lawson is sceptical that classic writer's block exists, but says procrastination is its real subset — and the strongest fix he's found is external accountability. Having a co-author, or making a commitment publicly with a hard deadline, exploits the drive to not let others down. Both he and Chris admit the trap of 'low-hanging fruit': tarting up a website instead of doing the deep writing.

  • Writer's block may not exist; procrastination is the real subset
  • External accountability is the most effective fix
  • A co-author or a public commitment with a hard deadline works best
  • It exploits the drive not to let other people down
  • Beware low-hanging fruit — busywork that dodges the deep work

when I've got a commitment to somebody else... that's a route that's probably a really good way

Dr. Lawson · 70:30

a proper hard deadline external accountability absolutely is what really does it for me

Chris Williamson · 70:30
#procrastination#writers-block#accountability#deep-work