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Chris Voss26 October 2020

How To Negotiate Like An FBI Agent - Chris Voss - #237

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster03:00

Stop trying to beat the other side — they're a counterpart, not an adversary

The most common wrong belief about negotiating is that you have to beat the other side. Voss's team never calls the person across the table an adversary; they say counterpart. You're both facing different aspects of the same problem, so by definition you're both better off collaborating rather than treating it as win-lose.

  • Most people wrongly frame negotiation as win-lose
  • Voss's team uses 'counterpart,' never 'adversary'
  • Both sides face different aspects of the same problem
  • Win-lose framing hurts people long term

we never talk about the person across the table is the adversary we refer to them as a counterpart

Chris Voss · 03:00
#negotiation#mindset#collaboration
Myth Buster30:30

The 'yes momentum' sales trick is nonsense — and there are three kinds of yes

Voss debunks 'yes momentum' or 'momentum selling' — the idea that stacking small yeses forces a big yes. Everyone has been stung by it, so people become yes-averse the way a battered child flinches at a raised hand. The more you push for yes, the worse your problems get. He distinguishes three yeses: commitment, confirmation, and counterfeit.

  • 'Yes momentum' / tie-downs are a discredited manipulation
  • People are conditioned to distrust anyone chasing their yes
  • Pushing for yes makes your problems worse
  • The three yeses are commitment, confirmation, and counterfeit

there's three kinds of yeses commitment confirmation and counterfeit

Chris Voss · 30:30

the more you try to get people into yes the worse your problems are gonna be

Chris Voss · 32:30
#sales#yes#manipulation

Hot Take· 3

Hot Take42:00

When someone opens with 'win-win,' they're picking your pocket

Voss says the phrase 'win-win' bothers him not in theory but in how it's used — when someone leads with it in the opening moments, he assumes they're trying to pick his pocket. It's a shortcut used to sucker people who then relax. You can't know what a 'win' is because neither side knows what the other is holding back.

  • 'Win-win' as an opener is a warning sign, not reassurance
  • It's used to disarm and sucker collaborative people
  • Neither side can define a 'win' without full information
  • The theory is fine; the manipulative application is the problem

someone who uses hey let's do a win-win deal they tell me that right off the bat look i know you're trying to pick my…

Chris Voss · 42:00
#negotiation#red-flags#tactics
Hot Take47:00

Why assertive negotiators watch their deals quietly fade away

Voss, a self-described natural assertive, explains the assertive's fatal flaw using US-North Korea talks: nobody can say where they stand. Assertives leave people bruised, so fewer and fewer counterparts will deal with them. The other side learns that not surrendering means getting attacked, so they stop talking entirely — and deals just fade rather than conclude.

  • Assertives leave counterparts bruised and shrink their dealing pool
  • The US-North Korea stalemate is the classic symptom — nobody knows the status
  • Counterparts learn that not surrendering triggers an attack
  • So they stop talking, and deals fade instead of closing

that's what happens to the assertive negotiator negotiations just start to slowly fade they don't get concluded

Chris Voss · 47:30
#negotiation#assertiveness#leadership
Hot Take27:30

You can trust 70% of people blindly — the betrayals just fog your view

Voss argues about 70-75% of people can be trusted blindly, and most who won't collaborate are defensive from past betrayals, not out to cheat you. Only about one in ten is actually trying to cut your throat. We over-fear the cutthroats because a single betrayal stings so hard it obscures reality — but 70% is a batting average casinos would kill for.

  • 70-75% of people can be trusted blindly
  • Nine in ten reluctant collaborators are defensive, not predatory
  • Only ~1 in 10 is actually trying to cheat you
  • One painful betrayal fogs our view of the favorable odds

seventy five percent of the people that you encounter you'll be okay trusting them blindly

Chris Voss · 28:00
#trust#risk#psychology

Explainer· 4

Explainer05:30

The three negotiator types: assertive, analyst, and accommodator

Voss says the world splits evenly into thirds on negotiating style — fight, flight, or make friends. Assertives are blunt, loud, and treat time as money; analysts seem cold, distant, and comfortable with long silences; accommodators are relationship- and interaction-focused. The tricky part is that some analysts disguise themselves as bubbly accommodators.

  • Styles split into thirds: assertive, analyst, accommodator
  • Assertives are blunt, loud, and act like time is money
  • Analysts seem cold because they're thinking, and love silence
  • Accommodators are interaction-focused and want positive exchanges
  • A disguised analyst is the only type that fools you

the assertive is gonna be obvious they're gonna be blunt they're gonna be loud... the analytical they're gonna seem cold and distant

Chris Voss · 05:30
#negotiation#personality#typing
Explainer04:30

Type mismatches cause most negotiation friction

Because everyone has a dominant style, the real trouble comes from type mismatches in a given moment. Voss's classic example: a thoughtful analyst loves silence to think, while a relationship-focused accommodator reads that same silence as anger. Being aware of the mismatch as it happens is what matters.

  • Style mismatches, not the styles themselves, create problems
  • An analyst uses silence to think
  • An accommodator reads silence as brewing anger
  • Awareness of the mismatch in the moment is the key skill

one person's loving the silence because they want to think and the other person is going like oh my god the other person's mad

Chris Williamson · 05:00
#negotiation#communication#silence
Explainer19:30

The compulsion to correct leaks information people mean to guard

Voss describes the near-unstoppable urge people feel to correct a wrong guess — you say a birthday is the 16th and they blurt out 'no, the 17th.' It's a visceral response to something good-naturedly a little off. The kicker: people never notice they've handed you information, so their guard never comes back up and they don't backtrack.

  • People feel a visceral compulsion to correct a slightly-wrong guess
  • A good-natured wrong guess pulls out the real answer
  • They don't notice they've given away information
  • Because their guard never rises, they won't backtrack

when somebody corrects you they never notice that they've given you a bunch of information they their guard never comes up

Chris Voss · 20:30
#information-gathering#psychology#influence
Explainer45:00

Why compromise is a downward spiral, not a fair outcome

Citing Kahneman's prospect theory, Voss explains humans feel a loss at least twice as hard as an equivalent gain (Kahneman privately says closer to 5-7x). So splitting the difference makes both sides feel they lost double what they gave. Compromise therefore always spirals downward — each party feels compelled to claw back more, which is why Voss pushes for collaboration over 'middle ground.'

  • Prospect theory: losses hurt at least 2x more than equivalent gains
  • Kahneman suggests the real multiple is closer to 5-7x
  • Splitting the difference leaves both sides feeling double-robbed
  • Seek overlapping ground and new options, not middle ground

compromise always becomes a downward spiral always which is why it's to be avoided

Chris Voss · 46:00
#compromise#prospect-theory#behavioral-economics

Story· 1

Story36:30

How to de-escalate an angry, ejected nightclub patron

Responding to Williamson's nightlife experience, Voss lays out a de-escalation stack: lead with the calm late-night FM DJ voice (a commanding voice only aggravates), then repeat back what they're saying so they feel heard, then name the negativity to deactivate it. Most people just need to feel heard to close their open loop; Williamson ties this to the Zeigarnik effect of an unresolved grievance.

  • Start with the calm voice; a commanding voice aggravates
  • Repeat their point back so they feel heard
  • Call out the negativity directly to deactivate it
  • Most people just need to feel heard to close the loop

a lot of times people just want to have their say... if i repeat it back it's clear your point has gotten through to me

Chris Voss · 37:30
#de-escalation#conflict#nightlife

Tool· 1

Tool12:30

The late-night FM DJ voice as a two-way calming override

Voss explains the calm, soothing 'late-night FM DJ voice' triggers a neurochemical change via the listener's mirror neurons — an automatic, non-choice response that calms their brain. The bonus: because you hear your own voice too, using it forces a system override on yourself, letting you calm yourself down mid-conflict.

  • The calm DJ voice triggers the listener's mirror neurons automatically
  • It calms the other person's brain without their consent
  • You hear your own voice, so it calms you too
  • It's a system override you can run on yourself when upset

if you're upset and you just start talking out loud in a calm voice your voice is going to hit your mirror neurons and you…

Chris Voss · 13:00
#voice#de-escalation#neuroscience

Takeaway· 5

Takeaway01:00

The goal of a negotiation is a better relationship, not a better deal

Voss argues the right desired outcome from any negotiation is a better relationship, not a fixed number. Because both sides hold information back, fixating on an outcome puts blinders on and makes you miss a better deal. Aiming for the relationship makes the other side reveal more and want to deal again.

  • It's impossible to know the best outcome because both sides withhold information
  • Focusing on an outcome creates blinders and misses better deals
  • A relationship focus makes the other side show their hand
  • An adversarial relationship stings and discourages future deals

the more people get focused on an outcome the more they have blinders on the more they are likely to miss a better deal

Chris Voss · 01:30

greedy but long term greedy

Chris Williamson · 02:00
#negotiation#relationships#long-term
Takeaway09:30

There's no such thing as good or bad — only trained and untrained

Asked how a low-confidence person can feel more assertive, Voss quotes Denzel Washington in Man on Fire: 'there's no such thing as good or bad, there's only trained and untrained.' If you don't feel confident, you just haven't put your practice in. He backs it with Daniel Coyle's The Talent Code — the overwhelming majority of elite skill is learned, not innate.

  • Confidence is a trained skill, not a birthright
  • 'Only trained and untrained' reframes low confidence as low practice
  • Daniel Coyle's data shows top skills are learned
  • You can learn to become confident with practice

there's no such thing as good or bad there's only trained and untrained

Chris Voss · 09:30
#confidence#practice#skill
Takeaway10:30

Practice small-stakes negotiations for high-stakes results

Voss advises building negotiation skill through low-stakes reps: practice a calm demeanor ordering coffee or talking to your Uber driver. He coached a woman who'd moved back in with her button-pushing mother to practice staying calm with her — and to rehearse the interaction in advance by visualizing herself staying silent and composed, the way great athletes mentally rehearse the game-winning shot.

  • Use everyday low-stakes moments as practice reps
  • Practice a calm demeanor with baristas and drivers
  • Turn button-pushers like family into training partners
  • Mentally rehearse staying calm before the interaction, like elite athletes

we advise small stakes negotiations for high stakes results... practice a calm demeanor when you order coffee

Chris Voss · 10:30
#practice#calm#visualization
Takeaway30:00

Yes is nothing without how — force implementation before you trust agreement

Even sincere agreement is worthless if the person hasn't thought about implementing it. Voss says asking 'how?' pushes the other side into an implementation phase where they actually think the deal through, because hope is not a strategy. Williamson adds the nightclub example: someone may agree to a 10x door price but resent it, and resentment comes back to bite you later.

  • Sincere agreement means nothing without an implementation plan
  • Asking 'how?' forces the other side to think it through
  • Hope is not a strategy
  • Agreement doesn't mean the person is happy about the deal

as soon as you start asking me how you put me in an implementation phase

Chris Voss · 30:30
#implementation#agreement#negotiation
Takeaway44:30

Look for overlapping ground, not middle ground

Voss cautions that the phrase 'middle ground' drifts dangerously close to compromise. Instead, add your two truths together — 'I have things I want because that's true, you have things you want because that's also true' — and hunt for overlapping ground and new possibilities neither side envisioned, rather than meeting in a lossy middle.

  • 'Middle ground' language leads toward compromise
  • Both sides legitimately have things they want
  • Add the two truths together and look for overlap
  • Aim for new possibilities neither side foresaw

let's look for overlapping ground versus middle ground because middle ground starts getting dangerously close to compromise

Chris Voss · 44:30
#negotiation#collaboration#framing